Ask HN: Why is my submission not visible if I am not logged in?

I posted an article earlier, but I just noticed when not logged in on another computer that it is as if I never posted it. It's also didn't seem to be indexed as you can't search for it.

It's not a dupe, its from a news website that is often posted on here (I discovered them through HN!), and is clearly pretty relevant to tech.

I am honestly fine if everyone just wanted to downvote it and remove it from HN, but at least can I just see that this happened? Am I missing something? Really not trying to complain about censorship (not trying to kid myself there), but more just a meta note. I feel like in the past I would see that it was flagged and removed, or a dupe or otherwise. Just at least tell me stuff like this isn't welcome here, you don't even need to give good reason!

the article I posted: https://www.404media.co/ai-is-african-intelligence-the-workers-who-train-ai-are-fighting-back/

this is the post itself, but it looks like only I can see it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47353019

Bender 1 day ago

[dead] 'AI Is African Intelligence': The Workers Who Train AI Are Fighting Back (404media.co)

404media.co is auto-dead and requires someone to vouch for it. If you turn on show-dead in your profile you will see most submissions of that site are [dead]. [1]

I vouched for it and it should be visible now.

[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co

beepbooptheory 1 day ago

That is really wild to me! Had no idea they weren't in good standing like that on here, really associate HN with them in general. Thanks though either way. Not a big deal, thought it was good story but I guess not the right audience!

dang 1 day ago

It's because, for a long time, most of their content was behind a signup wall with no obvious workaround. I don't know if it still is or not. If it isn't, we can change it. In the meantime, users can always vouch for the articles that are readable and/or have workarounds.

See these links for the HN's general policy around paywalls:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

Btw, I took a quick look at the article and while it is interesting, I think the essay written by the man interviewed in the article is even more interesting: https://data-workers.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/The-Emot.... If you want, we could change the URL to that and re-up the post. Or, if you want, you could submit it separately and we could put it in the second-chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/pool, explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308), so it will get a random placement on HN's front page.

beepbooptheory 1 day ago

No no its ok! I am sure yall's system is what it is for good reason, this still kinds of turns me off I think from trying to participate in this particular way. If its worth it, I am sure someone else will do the steps. Thanks either way dang.

I do agree that essay is a better source here!

asdefghyk 1 day ago

I can see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47353019

If I am logged in I can see the link content. ALso can see it if I am not logged in. The post says it was posted 1 hour ago.

'AI Is African Intelligence': The Workers Who Train AI Are Fighting Back (404media.co) 1 point by beepbooptheory 1 hour ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | discuss

tasouuu 2 minutes ago

[dead]